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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 18 @ 1:46 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Tyler Ennis and Jack Eichel displayed some world-class talent in Prague If drafted Jack Eichel would be joining Tyler Ennis, Evander Kane, Matt Moulson and Zemgus Girgensons in the top-six mix.
GardinerExpress
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Joined: 08.21.2012

May 18 @ 2:06 AM ET
I think its a bit premature to consider girgensons a top 6 forward already.
A rebound season for hodgson(if he doesnt get bought out or traded) would go a long way to shoring up that top 6
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 18 @ 3:26 AM ET
Girgensons is without a doubt a top 6 player. He has size, speed, and scoring ability. He is rarely out of position and and reads the play well. He is not a liability defensively which may be one of the best traits for a young player. He is still very young (21) but he is only going to improve. He needs to get a little bit better on faceoffs but he improved on his faceoff % from his rookie season and that is another good sign that he is still improving on his overall game. Also he can play center and wing effectively, I would say the second line is where he belongs. Maybe once the Sabres get a coach who can write some creative plays he will shine even more.
SoCalSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Highland, CA
Joined: 08.02.2010

May 18 @ 3:39 AM ET
In a perfect Sabres team, Girgesons would be centering the 3rd line and be the top PK.
GardinerExpress
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May 18 @ 4:59 AM ET
Girgensons is without a doubt a top 6 player. He has size, speed, and scoring ability. He is rarely out of position and and reads the play well. He is not a liability defensively which may be one of the best traits for a young player. He is still very young (21) but he is only going to improve. He needs to get a little bit better on faceoffs but he improved on his faceoff % from his rookie season and that is another good sign that he is still improving on his overall game. Also he can play center and wing effectively, I would say the second line is where he belongs. Maybe once the Sabres get a coach who can write some creative plays he will shine even more.
- doppelthat


a guy that just hit a career high of 30pts is without a doubt a top 6 player?
the guy will probably never be a top scorer but looks like he will end up being a solid 35-40 pts 3rd line center
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 18 @ 5:05 AM ET
a guy that just hit a career high of 30pts is without a doubt a top 6 player?
the guy will probably never be a top scorer but looks like he will end up being a solid 35-40 pts 3rd line center

- GardinerExpress



In 61 games. The assumption is he'll get better as he's still fairly young.
ASU_Sabres14
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tempe, AZ
Joined: 05.04.2015

May 18 @ 6:36 AM ET
I think tyler ennis and other players highlight some good amateur scouting on the sabres end. Ennis was the 26th pick and is on the canada world team. Girgensons was also a mid first rounder and looks to be very promising. Risto is a bit different being picked at 8 but still not a super high pick and looks to be a career top 2 guy. Obviously theyre all first rounders but we hit on almost all of our first rounders in the past 6-7 years, ignoring kassian. Huge positive IMO that we were able to get guys like ennis, girgensons, zadorov, and risto without picking in the top 5 for 3+ years.
GardinerExpress
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May 18 @ 6:59 AM ET
In 61 games. The assumption is he'll get better as he's still fairly young.
- Sabresfan-365


Not saying he wont develop into one, but you cant peg him as a top 6 forward right now. If he throws up 45-50 points next year playing 18 mins a night, knock yourself out
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 18 @ 7:15 AM ET
In 61 games. The assumption is he'll get better as he's still fairly young.
- Sabresfan-365


I think we're all going to be shocked at what his ceiling is both in points and value. The guy is going to be really, really special.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 7:17 AM ET
I think its a bit premature to consider girgensons a top 6 forward already.
A rebound season for hodgson(if he doesnt get bought out or traded) would go a long way to shoring up that top 6

- GardinerExpress


Will he end up there? Maybe. Can he? Absolutely. The kid improves every year. His effort and drive is always over 100% but his offensive skill slowly improves year by year. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he can max out at 55-60 points on a very good team.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 7:19 AM ET
a guy that just hit a career high of 30pts is without a doubt a top 6 player?
the guy will probably never be a top scorer but looks like he will end up being a solid 35-40 pts 3rd line center

- GardinerExpress


Reading the score sheet for players not yet in their prime is a rookie mistake, kid. Especially this particular guy. Comparing Girgensons to a simple stat sheet is basically judging a book by its cover.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 18 @ 7:29 AM ET
I think we're all going to be shocked at what his ceiling is both in points and value. The guy is going to be really, really special.
- Slump Buster


There's a lot to like about him and I'm sure he could do fine job in the top 6 but I think we're better off long term if he's our 3rd line C.

Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 18 @ 7:47 AM ET
There's a lot to like about him and I'm sure he could do fine job in the top 6 but I think we're better off long term if he's our 3rd line C.
- Sabresfan-365

Agreed. Girgs on a line with Foligno and Gionta this season would be a great shut down line with some scoring potential. This is assuming Reinhart cracks the top-6, of course.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 18 @ 7:53 AM ET
As mentioned, it took a while for Eichel to get going for a number of reasons, but when he did his presence on the ice always drew the attention of the opposition, even to the point where Russia's Evgeni Malkin pounded an elbow into the back of his unsuspecting head.
- Michael Pachla


While I can't argue with how well Eichel played, there is nothing worth noting here; that is one of Malkin's trademarks. Some of the sneakiest elbows in the league.
Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 18 @ 8:17 AM ET
a guy that just hit a career high of 30pts is without a doubt a top 6 player?
the guy will probably never be a top scorer but looks like he will end up being a solid 35-40 pts 3rd line center

- GardinerExpress

Is it not a bit premature of you to say a 21 yr old with 30 points will at best develop into a 3rd line Center? He's probably 3-4 years away from his prime.

If 2 years ago someone said Something about Jake Gardiner never being a solid top pair D Man you would have went Bananas.....even though that's, well, true and all.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

May 18 @ 8:21 AM ET
Is it not a bit premature of you to say a 21 yr old with 30 points will at best develop into a 3rd line Center? He's probably 3-4 years away from his prime.

If 2 years ago someone said Something about Jake Gardiner never being a solid top pair D Man you would have went Bananas.....even though that's, well, true and all.

- Jeropotato

Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 18 @ 8:23 AM ET

- nfph

Hey I just call em as I see em.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 8:33 AM ET
where does girgens end up?

second line center?
third line center?
do they move him to the wing with jack and kane?
do they move him to the wing on the second line?


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 8:35 AM ET
Reading the score sheet for players not yet in their prime is a rookie mistake, kid. Especially this particular guy. Comparing Girgensons to a simple stat sheet is basically judging a book by its cover.
- TheSabresTaco

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 8:36 AM ET
Reading the score sheet for players not yet in their prime is a rookie mistake, kid. Especially this particular guy. Comparing Girgensons to a simple stat sheet is basically judging a book by its cover.
- TheSabresTaco

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 18 @ 8:37 AM ET
I think its a bit premature to consider girgensons a top 6 forward already.
A rebound season for hodgson(if he doesnt get bought out or traded) would go a long way to shoring up that top 6

- GardinerExpress


not really...keep it in the context of the sabres being a last place team two years running...

that being said, despite his 30 points in 61-game stat-line (which some see as inadequate,) for those of us who've watched him beginning as an 18 yr. old, the progress he's made points to a legit top-six down the road
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 8:38 AM ET
I am having a hard time finding a cover for my latest book

this book is called 50 shades of brown

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 8:43 AM ET
Where's our Babwatch insiders.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 8:43 AM ET
not really...keep it in the context of the sabres being a last place team two years running...

that being said, despite his 30 points in 61-game stat-line (which some see as inadequate,) for those of us who've watched him beginning as an 18 yr. old, the progress he's made points to a legit top-six down the road

- Michael Pachla

saad had 52 points for the hawks playing all 82 games and 18 minutes a night
sharp had 43 points in 68 games playing a tad under 17 minutes a night

it's not a stretch to assume girgens puts up similar numbers in year 3 on the second line with decent players
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 8:44 AM ET
Where's our Babwatch insiders.
- TheSabresTaco

at the beach

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